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    Rich Girard
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    #36378

    Rich Girard
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    HR Director presenting on Gatsas request for an audit. After emails and paycheck stuffers, only two employees came forward with questions about dental insurance eligibility and two non-eligible dependents were removed.

    City can’t piggy back off the state RFP, would have to issue its own because the state’s is finished. State still working to ascertain what the results of the audit were versus those who dropped out because they aged out.

    Company asked what was entailed. They review and verify all documents, birth and marriage certificates, redacted tax returns to verify eligible dependents. Takes about 4 months. Cost discussion revolved around rate or return on investment. Their goal is to find ineligible dependents. For city our size, cost is $20,000 on a fee basis, not contingency. Otherwise, the incentive is to remove people, not ensure the plan is being followed. ($20K?!? That’s it?!? DO IT)

    Previous vendor who did a “medical audit” for city, BMI, had good experience with another city for a dependent audit. Thoroughly vetted their process, happens over 4 to 5 months, ROI is about 3 to 1. If you spend 20K, expect 60K in first year savings, plus future savings because they’re off the plan.

    There is a risk for those on the plan who shouldn’t be. If they have a catastrophic illness and exceed the city’s limits, the reinsurer that covers above that amount won’t cover them because they’re not eligible.

    They did not go out for an RFP because it was not directed by the committee, so they’re may be other options out there we don’t know about it.

    #36379

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Craig: Are we only talking about spouses?

    Gile: no, could be children over the age of 26, step children after a divorce, grand parents covering grand children, other children that aren’t really dependents of the children.

    Craig: Have we ever found that before?

    Gile: Grandparents in the past covering their children.

    Craig: How did you find that out?

    Gile: sometimes it’s a flukey thing. Can’t give a specific answer. It sometimes just happens.

    Craig: Does your department do anything to track this?

    Gile: when people enroll, we ask for evidence of marriage certificate because of same sex marriage when it’s a new employee. In terms of an ongoing verification process, we send out flier during open enrollment asking them to notify us of any changes.

    Craig: Nobody in your department does anything proactively?

    Gile: no.

    #36380

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Shea asking about the personal nature of some of the information and whether or not it’s universally requested.

    Gile doesn’t know.

    Craig: She would be find doing this if there is not cost to the city. She’s objects to a set fee because she thinks the “pool of opportunity is low.” She doesn’t know if the return will be there to cover it.

    Gile: One company offered a guarantee such that there is a savings guarantee which would offset the cost of the audit.

    Craig: When the city is self insured, how would you calculate savings?

    Gile: for each dependent that’s off the plan, they assume $3,500 per dependent savings as an average. (So, we’d need to find 6 people who don’t belong on the plan to pay for it.)

    Craig: but there’s no definite savings.

    Gile, could be more. The process would be helpful to us to get a handle on things.

    We have, what 2,000 dependents on the plan, no ongoing verification and she’s worried about whether or onto $20K in cost will be recovered? Absurd!

    Ludwig moves to go out for an RFP. Might be an opportunity might not be. Could get ideas we’re not thinking of. Inexpensive way to get more information and see what the best thing might be. Unan, roy absent.

    #36381

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Love how the aldermen who normally argue that department heads should be allowed to manage their department often find themselves telling department heads they, or the unions, don’t like what they want them to do.

    The whole issue over how the Fleet Management Department is being run, given how it was hamstrung by the unions at its creation, is just disconcerting.

    #36382

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Public participation.

    Deb Oxley, president Local 717 at Manchester Transit Authority
    Dennis Carrier, vice president of Local

    Winter’s coming, our drivers have been under stress with construction, shortage of school bus drivers, need info on new schedules.

    Schedules are so tight, there are no bathroom breaks. Wants meeting with mayor to address issues.

    Gatsas: Call my office and we’ll schedule a meeting. Thank you.

    Carrier: We’ve given you all our business cards. Please call anytime.

    #36383

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Michael Farley,

    Chair of Manchester Heritage Commission.

    Oct 20th meeting, concerned about diocese property at St. Hedwig. They’ve voted to make it a local historic heritage property and notified the diocese, but they’ve not heard back.

    Home of a George Chandler, a significant figure in history of Manchester, several of the city’s early bishops. Giving history of Chandler. Pretty impressive.

    Worried that it will be torn down to make way for a parking lot if not sold and moved by end of the month.

    Bishop Brady and Guertin lived there, among others. Want awareness to have conversation with owners to preserve it for the city. Please take whatever action you can to help us save it.

    O’Neil wants Farley to stay so they can ask questions during the meeting.

    #36384

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Megan Mc??

    Supporting preservation of Chandler House, she walks by it everyday, works at Currier. Got to see it 3 years ago. Unspeakably beautiful. Craftsmanship that doesn’t exist in modern homes or even for its time. Anyone who would see it would say the same. Important to keep in mind it can be saved, taken care of, restored inside and out. Good inside, a little TLC outside. Need more time to explore options. When you destroy a house, you don’t get a second chance. No building it again, no bringing it back. There’s no need for another parking lot in that neighborhood (beg to differ, but the house should be saved)

    To remove a building that’s been there since the Currier Mansion was there just seems wrong.

    #36385

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Pat Currier (Elm St.) also on Heritage Commission and Hist Assoc.

    Also here about the Chandler House. People talk about all the beautiful buildings that have been lost. Let’s not add this one. Outrageous. Nobody can move that quickly. At this time of year, in this climate, nobody is going to build a parking lot. This house matters to the history of Manchester.

    #36386

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Eric Gagnon.

    Kudos to those who won, best to those moving on. Event at 550 ??, check it out. Wants posthumous key to the city for Howard McCarthy.

    #36387

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Michael Duffy;

    Chandler House, NH Preservation Alliance designated it as 2015 7 to save, based on architectural and cultural importance. One of the best of its type in the city, perhaps the state. Important to city because it remains on its original lot as an estate. Unique in that it remains without others filled in or transformed for institutional use. Therefore it is important.

    Franco American Center once on the list, saved, St. Anne’s, something else, Pandora Mill, in the weeds about another one. Urges the cit to be known for preservation, not demolition.

    #36388

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Eric Gagnon.

    Kudos to those who won, best to those moving on. Event at 550 ??, check it out. Wants posthumous key to the city for Howard McCarthy.

    #36389

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Kate Marquis: Chandler House.

    Could be used by Silver Tech, St. Anslem College, a success story like Palace Theatre…came from a mayor and a business person with vision that took the needed steps to invest in the heritage of city. Now look at it.

    Young workers want to live in cities that respect history and culture, celebrate heritiage.

    #36390

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Richard Danforth, idea guy, but not tonight.

    Congratulates everyone in election. Starts with Gatsas, wants him to run for President or something. Gatsas laughs. In his book, Craig’s a winner, not a loser. Has charisma and smarts, gave her it all.

    Ludwig, sweated it out in the election just like in the gym. Have you heard of Richard Simmons? He’ll really having you sweat.

    Kudos to Long, Roy (good luck in retirement), Sapienza (Osborne looking down on him) Corriveau (sure you’ll do well) O’Neil…the rest, Hirschmann, Gamache, Barry etc…

    #36391

    Rich Girard
    Keymaster

    Gamache “you’re too quiet”

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