(Hours 3b,c) Rich talked to Andrew Smith for The New, New Reality: Valuing Differences.  Andrew started the segment by speaking about the challenges of confirmational biases.  Rich questioned Andrew about how one is able to accurately track confirmational bias and Andrew shared about the subtlety of systemic institutional challenges.

(Hour 3c) As Rich continued with Andrew, they discussed the different faces of discrimination.  Rich spoke about beliefs that are held based off limited experiences and they took a call from Jennifer Girard, who shared another example of racism.  Tune in to hear all about it.